Ate Hours + 32 Years (planning and resource page)
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Ate Hours + 32 Years
an exhibition by four former printmakers, now well armed by life
Opening reception 6-8pm Friday August 1.
@onestarlounge One Star Lounge and Gallery (art space with bar, cafe, events, film)
301-303 Victoria Street, West Melbourne/Naarm.
Gallery open hours - Thurs & Fri 3-7pm, Sat 1-7pm, Sun 1-5pm and by appointment 0432 357 537.
Exhibition runs from Thursday 31st July, opening drinks Friday 1st August and runs until closing event Sunday August 17 2025.
With artists @jmaybe.art @sueysezno @geewizz20 @tiffanytitshall
Georgie Green - sculptures
Joelle Mayberry - sculptures
Sue-anne McCarthy - prints
Tiffany Titshall - drawings
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Ate Hours + 32 Years
an exhibition by four former printmakers, now well armed by life
Opening reception 6-8pm Friday August 1.
@onestarlounge One Star Lounge and Gallery (art space with bar, cafe, events, film)
301-303 Victoria Street, West Melbourne/Naarm.
Gallery open hours - Thurs & Fri 3-7pm, Sat 1-7pm, Sun 1-5pm and by appointment 0432 357 537.
Exhibition runs from Thursday 31st July, opening drinks Friday 1st August and runs until closing event Sunday August 17 2025.
With artists @jmaybe.art @sueysezno @geewizz20 @tiffanytitshall
Georgie Green - sculptures
Joelle Mayberry - sculptures
Sue-anne McCarthy - prints
Tiffany Titshall - drawings
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After decades of creation, conversation, and dark humour, four artists reunite—not just as former printmakers, but as women shaped by living.
Ate Hours + 32 Years is a powerful reflection on so-called “women’s business,” identity, and the enduring force of creative will.
Through mixed media, remnants of print, personal archives, and newly forged works, the exhibition explores what it means to carry art as armour.
These works are both weapons and wisdom.
Ate Hours + 32 Years is a powerful reflection on so-called “women’s business,” identity, and the enduring force of creative will.
Through mixed media, remnants of print, personal archives, and newly forged works, the exhibition explores what it means to carry art as armour.
These works are both weapons and wisdom.
ARTISTS
GEORGIE GREEN
BIO
Georgie Green is a Skipton-based sculptor with a passion for the environment. She completed an undergraduate degree majoring in printmaking, with honours in sculpture, and later a master's degree in fine art with an emphasis on installation. For more than 20 years, she has been working in education, the fine arts, and STEAM, spanning from the tertiary to the primary level.
STATEMENT
I guess I'm a bit old-fashioned as an artist; I love to make, and fingerprints are important. I select materials to express my ideas and tell my stories, but ultimately, they have a voice and stories to tell as well. There's the work and the title; that's all I impose on the audience. Their response or relation to their own stories is important and valid. With that in mind, my name is Georgie Green, and I make stuff! Enjoy.
Georgie Green is a Skipton-based sculptor with a passion for the environment. She completed an undergraduate degree majoring in printmaking, with honours in sculpture, and later a master's degree in fine art with an emphasis on installation. For more than 20 years, she has been working in education, the fine arts, and STEAM, spanning from the tertiary to the primary level.
STATEMENT
I guess I'm a bit old-fashioned as an artist; I love to make, and fingerprints are important. I select materials to express my ideas and tell my stories, but ultimately, they have a voice and stories to tell as well. There's the work and the title; that's all I impose on the audience. Their response or relation to their own stories is important and valid. With that in mind, my name is Georgie Green, and I make stuff! Enjoy.
JOELLE MAYBERRY
BIO
Joelle Mayberry is a Melbourne sculptor and painter who studied printmaking and now works in a sculpture foundry where she does everything up to the point of casting ( lost wax method).
She has exhibited since 1993 in a way that could generously be described as sporadic.
STATEMENT
If I plan a piece it's sure to be a disappointment, so I am always trying to be as spontaneous as possible. I go into the studio with my mind as blank as I can make it (that's pretty blank) and try to ambush ideas if they stick their heads above the trenches of my subconscious. I try to make using instinct rather than conscious thought. Then out of sheer perversity I translate these spontaneous pieces via a laborious process into the most durable of media. I particularly like it when you can see my fingerprints in the finished bronze.
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PRICE LIST
1). 6 x Untitled heads - bronze - $500ea
2). Fan Dance - bronze and shell - sold
3). Danse Macabre - bronze - $900
4). Poise - bronze - $1200
(TOTAL 9 WORKS)
BIO
Joelle Mayberry is a Melbourne sculptor and painter who studied printmaking and now works in a sculpture foundry where she does everything up to the point of casting ( lost wax method).
She has exhibited since 1993 in a way that could generously be described as sporadic.
STATEMENT
If I plan a piece it's sure to be a disappointment, so I am always trying to be as spontaneous as possible. I go into the studio with my mind as blank as I can make it (that's pretty blank) and try to ambush ideas if they stick their heads above the trenches of my subconscious. I try to make using instinct rather than conscious thought. Then out of sheer perversity I translate these spontaneous pieces via a laborious process into the most durable of media. I particularly like it when you can see my fingerprints in the finished bronze.
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PRICE LIST
1). 6 x Untitled heads - bronze - $500ea
2). Fan Dance - bronze and shell - sold
3). Danse Macabre - bronze - $900
4). Poise - bronze - $1200
(TOTAL 9 WORKS)
SUE-ANNE McCARTHY
BIO
Sue-Anne McCarthy is a Geelong-based artist who completed a BA with honours in printmaking and later completed a Graduate Diploma in Education. She has been teaching Visual Arts to secondary students for over 20 years; facilitating, supporting, and curating young artists’ creative journeys.
It seems now a good time to do this.
STATEMENT
It’s been a long time between drinks, and I find myself full of words with no mouth to speak them. Recently, I came across a book on Paul Klee’s puppets; enthrallingly ugly things. I realised that if what emerges from my artmaking is especially ugly, or worse, that by the end of the sentence I hate what it is I began to say… then so be it. A voice; more like the guttural cry of a banshee, rose from deep inside and exclaimed, “Get the puppets!”
The return to printmaking has felt natural, like coming home to something deeply familiar. Using recycled materials like Tetrapak to make the plates has allowed me to work more spontaneously, getting ideas onto paper without the pressure or permanence that came with metal etching. It’s surprisingly well-suited to the process and offers a sense of freedom and limitlessness that traditional etching never did.
11 works
Sue-Anne McCarthy is a Geelong-based artist who completed a BA with honours in printmaking and later completed a Graduate Diploma in Education. She has been teaching Visual Arts to secondary students for over 20 years; facilitating, supporting, and curating young artists’ creative journeys.
It seems now a good time to do this.
STATEMENT
It’s been a long time between drinks, and I find myself full of words with no mouth to speak them. Recently, I came across a book on Paul Klee’s puppets; enthrallingly ugly things. I realised that if what emerges from my artmaking is especially ugly, or worse, that by the end of the sentence I hate what it is I began to say… then so be it. A voice; more like the guttural cry of a banshee, rose from deep inside and exclaimed, “Get the puppets!”
The return to printmaking has felt natural, like coming home to something deeply familiar. Using recycled materials like Tetrapak to make the plates has allowed me to work more spontaneously, getting ideas onto paper without the pressure or permanence that came with metal etching. It’s surprisingly well-suited to the process and offers a sense of freedom and limitlessness that traditional etching never did.
11 works
TIFFANY TITSHALL
BIO
Tiffany Titshall was born in Melbourne and has lived in a retired servicemen’s club in St Kilda and on a dry hilltop in Majorca, Victoria—both places named after islands.
Completing her honours degree in printmaking at Monash University in 1995, Titshall doesn’t recall being trained to navigate any perceived version of the art world. It took some years of introversion and eventual frustration with her own lack of discipline to learn to ignore what did not matter and simply get on with creating—regardless. Titshall has exhibited regularly since 2008 and has had work acquired by the Central Goldfields Art Gallery and the Art Gallery of Ballarat.
Titshall lives and works on Dja Dja Wurrung country in central Victoria as an artist and also as Design Syren.
STATEMENT
I like the idea of the contrast between echoing the needs of others and personal rebellion—hence Echo Bitch: the myth, the pun, the song. I love my friends and am very grateful to be exploring with and supporting our collective vision by reuniting for this exhibition. Connecting feels like the ultimate reason we do what we do.
I usually work in charcoal on paper—an impatient printmaker’s medium. Themes range from myths, inner worlds, relics, rituals, tree portraits, and the natural world in which I live, to erosion and scars (both literal and symbolic), walking, and echoing my surroundings in a personal way. Gender and our conditioning are also fascinations, as we constantly unpack what we know and what we see—or don’t see—from different perspectives. Often, when a body of work is finished, an alternative personal meaning lies beneath. Sometimes, years later, another narrative is revealed. It is hard to see all of what our minds are trying to express in the moment, and that’s something I love about artmaking—creating can be an act of serendipity. So we continue, because we all want to know what comes next. Sometimes there are seriously spooky predictions.
BIO
Tiffany Titshall was born in Melbourne and has lived in a retired servicemen’s club in St Kilda and on a dry hilltop in Majorca, Victoria—both places named after islands.
Completing her honours degree in printmaking at Monash University in 1995, Titshall doesn’t recall being trained to navigate any perceived version of the art world. It took some years of introversion and eventual frustration with her own lack of discipline to learn to ignore what did not matter and simply get on with creating—regardless. Titshall has exhibited regularly since 2008 and has had work acquired by the Central Goldfields Art Gallery and the Art Gallery of Ballarat.
Titshall lives and works on Dja Dja Wurrung country in central Victoria as an artist and also as Design Syren.
STATEMENT
I like the idea of the contrast between echoing the needs of others and personal rebellion—hence Echo Bitch: the myth, the pun, the song. I love my friends and am very grateful to be exploring with and supporting our collective vision by reuniting for this exhibition. Connecting feels like the ultimate reason we do what we do.
I usually work in charcoal on paper—an impatient printmaker’s medium. Themes range from myths, inner worlds, relics, rituals, tree portraits, and the natural world in which I live, to erosion and scars (both literal and symbolic), walking, and echoing my surroundings in a personal way. Gender and our conditioning are also fascinations, as we constantly unpack what we know and what we see—or don’t see—from different perspectives. Often, when a body of work is finished, an alternative personal meaning lies beneath. Sometimes, years later, another narrative is revealed. It is hard to see all of what our minds are trying to express in the moment, and that’s something I love about artmaking—creating can be an act of serendipity. So we continue, because we all want to know what comes next. Sometimes there are seriously spooky predictions.
numbers and pricing notes
(Note: Tiffany Titshall: all works mixed media on Saunders Waterford 300gsm and unframed. Some fixed to primed cradled ply board.)
1. Cold Discovery, 2024
Tiffany Titshall
76 x 56 cm
$800
2. Sphynx, 2025
T.T
38 x 28 cm
$300
3. Fire burn and cauldron bubble, 2025
T.T
38 x 28 cm
$300
4. The Small Weight, 2025
Sue-anne McCarthy
Intaglio chine-collé on 300gsm Somerset
29 x 21 cm
3 available
$250
5. Hummingbird Study, 1995
S.M
Etching/aquatint on 300gsm 100% cotton rag
30 x 25 cm
Artist proof 1 available
$350
6. Oxalis, 2025
S.M
Multicolour Intaglio on 300gsm Somerset
59 x 42 cm
2 available
$300
7. Carapace, 2025
T.T
38 x 28 cm
$300
8. Flow, 2025
T.T
38 x 28 cm
$300
9. Theatre of Cruelty, 2022
T.T
76 x 56 cm
$1500
10. Balloon, 1995
S.M
Lithograph on 100% Cotton rag
55 x 38 cm
1 available
$300
11. Untitled (Puppet Girl), 1995
S.M
Lithograph on 100% Cotton rag
55 x 38 cm
1 available
$300
12. Untitled (Kite), 1995
S.M
Lithograph on 100% Cotton rag
25 x 20 cm
1 available
$250
13. Nowhere Fast, 2025
S.M
Etching aquatint plate created in 1995
42 x 42 cm
3 available
$350
14. Stolen Look, 2024
T.T
25 x 20 cm
$200
15. Snake Pounce, 2024
T.T
25 x 20 cm
$300
16. The Inland Seas, 2024
T.T
76 x 56 cm
$600
17. Siren, 2025
T.T
38 x 28 cm
$300
18. Ladies bring a plate, 2025
T.T
38 x 28 cm
$300
19. Faulty Zipper, 2024
T.T
25 x 20 cm
$300
20. There's no place like home, 2024
T.T
25 x 20 cm
$300
21. Bird Girl, TT
T.T
38 x 28 cm
$300
22. Echo Bitch,
T.T
38 x 28 cm
$300
23. Untitled head, 2025
Joelle Mayberry
bronze
$500
24. Untitled head, 2025
J.M
bronze
$500
25. Untitled head, 2025
J.M
bronze
$500
26. Poise, 2025
J.M
bronze
$1200
27. the weight of small things
S.M
28. Suspire
S.M
29. Untitled
S.M
30. Untitled (owl)
S.M
31. (puppet tetrapack)
S.M
32. Let Ya Love Light Shine
Georgie Green
timber, resin, steel, acrylic paint, and found objects
$2500
33. (red puppet)
S.M
34. Untitled head, 2025
Joelle Mayberry
bronze
$500
35. Untitled head, 2025
Joelle Mayberry
bronze
$500
36. Fan Dance, 2025
J.M
bronze and shell
SOLD
37. Untitled head, 2025
Joelle Mayberry
bronze
$500
38. Danse Macabre
J.M
bronze
$900
39. Size 8EEE, 1993
G.G
bronze and red gum
$300
40. Eight Days, 1993
G.G
bronze and red gum
$300
41. Eight Lashes, 1993
G.G
bronze and red gum
$300
42. Eight Seconds, 1993
G.G
bronze and red gum
$300
43. Eight Months, 1993
G.G
bronze and redgum
$300
44. Eight Minutes, 1993
G.G
bronze and redgum
NFS
45. Nuclear Potato
G.G
bronze, acrylic paint, and canuba
$900.
46. Ned Smith
G.G
timber, paint, and found objects
NFS
47. Megaphone Mogul
G.G
timber, fabric, and marker
$400
48. The mirrors would do well to reflect more II
T.T
76 x 56 cm
$800
49. Echo in the Hollow, 2023
T.T
2 x 76 x 56 cm (unframed diptych)
$3000
50. Limbo,
T.T
56 x 76 cm
$1500
51. Love Shack
G.G
red gum, fabric, and brass rod
$950.
52. Pedestal
G.G
red gum, resin, and found object
$3000.
PRICE LIST
Long draft list, all unframed, depends which install for final price list/price list
Siren, 2025
charcoal on primed Saunders Waterford 300gsm
38 x 28 cm
$300
Sphynx, 2025
charcoal on primed Saunders Waterford 300gsm
38 x 28 cm
$300
Fire burn and cauldron bubble, 2025
charcoal on primed Saunders Waterford 300gsm
38 x 28 cm
$300
Echo bitch, 2025
ink, charcoal & collage on primed Saunders Waterford 300gsm
38 x 28 cm
$300
Rain deity, 2025
ink, charcoal, pencil & pastel on primed Saunders Waterford 300gsm
38 x 28 cm
$300
Ladies bring a plate, 2025
ink, charcoal & pencil on primed Saunders Waterford 300gsm
38 x 28 cm
$300
Bird girl, 2025
ink & charcoal on primed Saunders Waterford 300gsm
38 x 28 cm
$300
There’s no place like home, 2024
ink & charcoal on primed Saunders Waterford 300gsm on board
25 x 20 cm
$300
Faulty Zipper, 2024
charcoal on primed Saunders Waterford 300gsm on board
25 x 20 cm
$300
Ladeity II, 2024
ink & charcoal on primed Saunders Waterford 300gsm on board
40 x 30 cm
$400
Carapace, 2025
ink & charcoal on primed Saunders Waterford 300gsm
38 x 28 cm
$300
Flow, 2025
ink & charcoal on primed Saunders Waterford 300gsm
38 x 28 cm
$300
-----other potential-----pictured below--not in any order
Snake pounce, 2024
ink & charcoal on primed Saunders Waterford 300gsm on board
25 x 20 cm
$100
The original rock star, 2024
acrylic & ink on board
15.5 x 13 cm
The Inland Seas, 2024
ink & charcoal on primed Saunders Waterford 300gsm
76 x 56 cm unframed
$600
It was a - throw your two-faced Zeus
into the bronze foot bath by the door -
kind of scene, (after Odilon Redon, Têt de Martyr), 2024
ink & charcoal on primed Saunders Waterford 300gsm on board
40 x 30 cm
$400
Cold Discovery, 2024
ink, pastel, oil & charcoal on primed Saunders Waterford 300gsm
76 x 56 cm unframed
$800 + commission?
The mirrors would do well to reflect more II, 2025
ink & charcoal on primed Saunders Waterford 300gsm
76 x 56 cm unframed
$600
Ladeity I, 2024
ink & charcoal on primed Saunders Waterford 300gsm on board
40 x 30 cm
$400
Registered Trademark, 2024
ink & charcoal on primed Saunders Waterford 300gsm on board
25 x 20 cm
$100
Long draft list, all unframed, depends which install for final price list/price list
Siren, 2025
charcoal on primed Saunders Waterford 300gsm
38 x 28 cm
$300
Sphynx, 2025
charcoal on primed Saunders Waterford 300gsm
38 x 28 cm
$300
Fire burn and cauldron bubble, 2025
charcoal on primed Saunders Waterford 300gsm
38 x 28 cm
$300
Echo bitch, 2025
ink, charcoal & collage on primed Saunders Waterford 300gsm
38 x 28 cm
$300
Rain deity, 2025
ink, charcoal, pencil & pastel on primed Saunders Waterford 300gsm
38 x 28 cm
$300
Ladies bring a plate, 2025
ink, charcoal & pencil on primed Saunders Waterford 300gsm
38 x 28 cm
$300
Bird girl, 2025
ink & charcoal on primed Saunders Waterford 300gsm
38 x 28 cm
$300
There’s no place like home, 2024
ink & charcoal on primed Saunders Waterford 300gsm on board
25 x 20 cm
$300
Faulty Zipper, 2024
charcoal on primed Saunders Waterford 300gsm on board
25 x 20 cm
$300
Ladeity II, 2024
ink & charcoal on primed Saunders Waterford 300gsm on board
40 x 30 cm
$400
Carapace, 2025
ink & charcoal on primed Saunders Waterford 300gsm
38 x 28 cm
$300
Flow, 2025
ink & charcoal on primed Saunders Waterford 300gsm
38 x 28 cm
$300
-----other potential-----pictured below--not in any order
Snake pounce, 2024
ink & charcoal on primed Saunders Waterford 300gsm on board
25 x 20 cm
$100
The original rock star, 2024
acrylic & ink on board
15.5 x 13 cm
The Inland Seas, 2024
ink & charcoal on primed Saunders Waterford 300gsm
76 x 56 cm unframed
$600
It was a - throw your two-faced Zeus
into the bronze foot bath by the door -
kind of scene, (after Odilon Redon, Têt de Martyr), 2024
ink & charcoal on primed Saunders Waterford 300gsm on board
40 x 30 cm
$400
Cold Discovery, 2024
ink, pastel, oil & charcoal on primed Saunders Waterford 300gsm
76 x 56 cm unframed
$800 + commission?
The mirrors would do well to reflect more II, 2025
ink & charcoal on primed Saunders Waterford 300gsm
76 x 56 cm unframed
$600
Ladeity I, 2024
ink & charcoal on primed Saunders Waterford 300gsm on board
40 x 30 cm
$400
Registered Trademark, 2024
ink & charcoal on primed Saunders Waterford 300gsm on board
25 x 20 cm
$100
The first 9 are new for the show. Others are spare, possibly not to be included but will bring. More spares in the notes below. Thinking about the nude on rock gave me a thought of an exhibition based around Blairgowrie fish and rocks and shells and I think intuitively we have matched some works. Shells, figures, birds etc, which is great.
Some old prints can perhaps add to a random pinboard wall with photos and old flyer?
Some old prints can perhaps add to a random pinboard wall with photos and old flyer?
Some old photos, flyers, and prints I would like to display
Social media flyer jpeg
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Email with words that were sent to Katy:
We haven't had a sit down to go over the words but I trimmed some excess and repetition and it is at least something you could use the title or snippets from if need be. It could easily exclude the second para. We will write up some bios. We were big fans of the visual gag back then so we could elaborate on the humour and our practice.
To all,
Joelle and I went to see Katy and the gallery yesterday and we discussed altering the title but may have to stick to this with the bylines below as the exhibition installs Tuesday July 29 and opens Friday August 1. Happy creating and please all send an image of a work to me or Katy when you can - not urgent. I have provided one here today as discussed, for Art Guide.
I will also use our original poster to create a digital flyer for us. To your requirements.
I am away from June 2 to July 13 so am finalising most of my work over the next week and providing information.
More information below
Thanks!
Tiff
Briefly about the artists (Katy is following all of your instagrams):
Georgie Green studied printmaking and sculpture, Specialist teacher, and works in mixed media sculpture which has also involved performance.
Joelle Mayberry studied printmaking and is multi disciplinary, working mostly in bronze and paint - bronze in this case.
Sue-anne McCarthy studied printmaking and is a teacher of all the art disciplines, working with printing recycled materials for this exhibition.
Tiffany Titshall studied printmaking and works mostly in charcoal, ink, and paint on paper.
Ate Hours + 32 Years
An exhibition by four former printmakers
Ladies Bring a Weapon
After decades of creation, conversation, and dark humour, four artists reunite—not just as former printmakers, but as women shaped by living.
Ate Hours + 32 Years is a powerful reflection on so-called “women’s business,” identity, and the enduring force of creative will.
Through mixed media, remnants of print, personal archives, and newly forged works, the exhibition explores what it means to carry art as armour.
These works are both weapons and wisdom.
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GEORGIE - re plinths and wine:
Dear Tiffany,
We settled on just nice Aldi Prosecco, Its $12 per botle. and we could go halves with the artists/one star. If you'd like to offer a few bottles of red as well, that would be okay. Its true we try to make a bit from the bar to pay bar person, and to put in towards the proseccos.
Yes we have a lot of plinths, but maybe she needs a particular size or height. She can check with me if I have similar...
The vinyl lettering was $62.89 I'll forward the receipt that included Miles' as well.
Yes fine to discuss everything at install. Tuesday is 12 good or would you like earlier -I'd be fine with 11 ?
x Katy
We haven't had a sit down to go over the words but I trimmed some excess and repetition and it is at least something you could use the title or snippets from if need be. It could easily exclude the second para. We will write up some bios. We were big fans of the visual gag back then so we could elaborate on the humour and our practice.
To all,
Joelle and I went to see Katy and the gallery yesterday and we discussed altering the title but may have to stick to this with the bylines below as the exhibition installs Tuesday July 29 and opens Friday August 1. Happy creating and please all send an image of a work to me or Katy when you can - not urgent. I have provided one here today as discussed, for Art Guide.
I will also use our original poster to create a digital flyer for us. To your requirements.
I am away from June 2 to July 13 so am finalising most of my work over the next week and providing information.
More information below
Thanks!
Tiff
Briefly about the artists (Katy is following all of your instagrams):
Georgie Green studied printmaking and sculpture, Specialist teacher, and works in mixed media sculpture which has also involved performance.
Joelle Mayberry studied printmaking and is multi disciplinary, working mostly in bronze and paint - bronze in this case.
Sue-anne McCarthy studied printmaking and is a teacher of all the art disciplines, working with printing recycled materials for this exhibition.
Tiffany Titshall studied printmaking and works mostly in charcoal, ink, and paint on paper.
Ate Hours + 32 Years
An exhibition by four former printmakers
Ladies Bring a Weapon
After decades of creation, conversation, and dark humour, four artists reunite—not just as former printmakers, but as women shaped by living.
Ate Hours + 32 Years is a powerful reflection on so-called “women’s business,” identity, and the enduring force of creative will.
Through mixed media, remnants of print, personal archives, and newly forged works, the exhibition explores what it means to carry art as armour.
These works are both weapons and wisdom.
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GEORGIE - re plinths and wine:
Dear Tiffany,
We settled on just nice Aldi Prosecco, Its $12 per botle. and we could go halves with the artists/one star. If you'd like to offer a few bottles of red as well, that would be okay. Its true we try to make a bit from the bar to pay bar person, and to put in towards the proseccos.
Yes we have a lot of plinths, but maybe she needs a particular size or height. She can check with me if I have similar...
The vinyl lettering was $62.89 I'll forward the receipt that included Miles' as well.
Yes fine to discuss everything at install. Tuesday is 12 good or would you like earlier -I'd be fine with 11 ?
x Katy
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